Epic Games Says Unreal Engine 4 Won’t be On Wii U

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During a Q&A session following their presentation of Unreal Engine 4 at GDC 2013, Epic Games’ Mark Rein was asked whether Unreal Engine 4 would be supported on Wii U in any fashion. Of course, if you’ve seen the “Infiltration” tech demo, you’ve probably already guessed how unlikely that is – however, last year, Mr. Rein said that the engine was “supremely scalable” and would likely be able to accept ports of Unreal Engine 4 games, even if the platform isn’t directly supported.

This year, he took a very different tone. I’ll put it this way: when the Wii U question popped up, he laughed. Click below to see his comments.

Hahaha no. I mean, sorry, it’s not really a correct answer. We’re not… we have Unreal Engine 3 for the Wii U. Right? And Unreal Engine 3 is powering all kinds of amazing games, still lots of games are being made with Unreal Engine 3. We announced today about a new Unreal Engine 3 license. Unreal Engine 3 doesn’t disappear because of Unreal Engine 4.

But our goal for Unreal Engine 4 console-wise is next-gen consoles. That’s really what our energies are focused on. If you want to make a Wii U game, we have Unreal Engine 3, and it’s powering some of the best games on the Wii U already. Nothing controversial, guys.

However, Mr. Rein later clarified his statement to IGN:

I just laugh at the question…Unreal Engine 4, we’re not PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, or Wii U. It’s next-gen technology. That’s what we’re aiming for. The truth is, if a developer wanted to take an Unreal Engine game and put it on Wii U, they could. Unreal Engine 3 is kicking ass on Wii U. The best games on Wii U are made on our technology. What more do you want from us?

This sounds more like what he said last year – Unreal Engine 4 games will be portable to Wii U. However, some might find it interesting that he’s listing Wii U together with PS3 and Xbox 360 as platforms that aren’t “next-gen.” So if it’s not a matter of Wii U being unable to handle Unreal Engine 4 games… why is Epic leaving Wii U out of the “next-gen” category?

Source: Kotaku via My Nintendo News, IGN

  • Truth

    Sorry but Wii U technically is next gen and is way more powerful than any current gen-consoles like Xbox 360 and PS3.

    • Ibi Salmon

      I think you’re exaggerating things. The Wii U is more powerful than the PS3 or 360, but not by that much.

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/FerguliosoFilms RestlessPoon

        I’m sick of this response. Nobody knows the actual power, but it’s a safe bet that if Wii U games can pull in PC features, it’s significantly more powerful than last gen. People need to get the hell over it.

        • Ibi Salmon

          I’m just going by what I know. Regardless of however you look at it, the Wii U is the most powerful home console on the market today.

          Whether that says much or not depends on who you ask.

      • Truth

        I gotta agree with RestlessPoon here. The whole “barely more powerful than current gen” is just something people like you say to glorify the other consoles and it’s not even true.

        • Ibi Salmon

          Where in my comment did I “glorify the other consoles”? Like I said before, I’m just going by the knowledge I have. And according to my knowledge, the specs of the Wii U surpass current-gen consoles but not to a point where it can be considered “next-gen”.

          Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.

          • Dusk

            generation has nothing to do with specs. The Wii U could have worse specs then the gamecube and it would still actually be part of the “next genereation” of consoles.

      • Dusk

        Well, the graphics processing unit in it is vastly more powerful actually and that is what really defines a console.

        • Ibi Salmon

          Maybe. Who knows for sure? What people consider to be “next-gen” depends on perspective.

          • Dusk

            I get what your saying, but this is the issue with that statement. “next-gen” is short for next generation, so the problem with that is that a ‘generation’ has absolutely nothing to do with abilities or specifications.
            Here is the definition of generation
            Noun
            1. All of the people born and living at about the same time, regarded collectively: “one of his generation’s finest songwriters”.
            2. The average period, generally considered to be about thirty years, during which children grow up and have children of their own.

            So the reality of it is that if customers demanded an 8 bit system and a console maker made one that is 8 bit but it was/will be released in 2013-2014 it would still be a next generation console because it is released in the same time line as the PS4, next box and yeah, the Wii U as well.

            • Ibi Salmon

              Yes. The Wii U is “next-gen” in a literal sense. It’s an 8th generation console which came after the Wii, which was a 7th generation console. However, what’s we’ve seen in terms of graphical power so far is is what most have seen with the 360 and PS3.

              Most people are judging the console based on the latter. That’s why you hear people say that it’s not truly a “next-gen” system.

              • Dusk

                be that as it may, the Wii U has yet to be challenged graphically, and I honestly don’t think the PS4 will be a huge step above it because despite its touting of it’s internal specs, they really aren’t all that great and not much of a step beyond what the Wii U offers.
                The CPU in the machine is a low range chip designed for tablets, netbooks and entry level lap tops. Even these lap tops actually have the clock speeds amped up from what the PS4 offers at 1.6 ghz. And the 8 gigs of DDR5 ram that come with it is shared between the system/os and the gpu, and likely since they are still using mechanical hard drives the games will be loaded into the RAM when playing them, so that will take the majority of the RAM right there. Also the GPU in the PS4 is mid range with it’s abilities. The Wii U’s even though it is based on an older card has the die shrunk and has been updated to improve the performance and include the latest features within the newest video cards, so they are on fairly level playing ground.
                But we will just have to wait to see what the future holds with all of this.
                Oh, check out the unreal 4 engine tech demo released on the PS4. I have to admit, I was disappointed with it. Looks like it’s running at about 20 fps, and there is nothing in there that looks much better then the unreal 3 engine. I was hoping it would be at least on par with PC’s but that certainly wasn’t what was shown…

                • Ibi Salmon

                  I was impressed with the tech demo at first. The first half looked really good. But the second half took a sudden drop in quality.

                  But anyways, I agree. The PS4 doesn’t look like it’ll look like a huge leap from the PS3, though I am impressed with the information we’ve gotten so far on it overall.

                  I’ll say this right now: I don’t think the Wii U sucks. I am interested in the system and do plan on getting one at some point despite the controversy. I just wish there was more to the Wii U than what’s being offered right now. Maybe that’ll change in the future. Who knows…

    • http://www.facebook.com/jugglaj91 Joe Onley Jr

      I just wish more people would see it as a next gen console. Since when does power define a generation of a machine?

  • Erimgard

    That’s really a terrible excuse. If Unreal 4 can run on cell phones why would you refuse to bring it to the Wii U? Power’s not the issue. Clearly Epic isn’t a big fan of the console in general.

    • Ibi Salmon

      Really? Unreal 4 on cell phones?

      • Dusk

        Well, smart phones yes. He stated it himself.

    • http://www.facebook.com/aaron.lefebvre.161 Aaron Lefebvre

      Cliff is a HUGE fan of Nintendo, i think if he was still working, he would have let them use it.

  • Tiranofarl

    That’s a very unprofessional move of his… You know, the laugh… It is sad that the Wii U won’t receive support from them, at least not official…

  • Tensei

    Everyday, there is more bad news for the Wii U. Nintendo occupies a special place in my heart but I really feel they need to fail so that reality will adjust their attitude.Much like what happened to Sony with PS3.

    In defense of Nintendo, I dont like the Unreal gang (including Cliffy B). I think UE3 ubiquity this gen is a cancer to the industry. And all UE4 seems to demonstrate is that they want to up the ante in their racketeering ways. Thankfully, big publishers are wising up and developing in house engines to compete or atleast cut out royalty costs..

    • http://www.facebook.com/aaron.lefebvre.161 Aaron Lefebvre

      You do know Cliff is a huge Nintendo fan right?

    • http://www.facebook.com/jugglaj91 Joe Onley Jr

      Having only one or two main gaming engines going around makes it cheaper to produce games which hopefully keeps the cost of games down for buyers. Also, Cliff left Unreal because they just follow into a same sort of pattern and he wants something new and fresh, which Nintendo tries to do. But since all anyone wants is the same bland shooters that’s all we get. Nintendo will come back once the big name games come into play. But if they were smart they would do more than one game for each big series of theirs per console.

      • Dusk

        They still need to get off their butts and go on the offensive to get more developers to work on their platform. They have been sitting back playing the nice guy for too long.

        • http://www.facebook.com/jugglaj91 Joe Onley Jr

          I totally agree. But they could do a bit more with their own studios as well.

          • Dusk

            Do you mean new IP’s? I’m not sure what you mean cause we have about 10 games coming out from Nintendo’s first party devs for the Wii U this year, and thats just the announced ones. Presumably there will be at least 1 more first party exclusive announced at E3. I’m hoping for a new metroid personally :D

            • http://www.facebook.com/jugglaj91 Joe Onley Jr

              I was meaning instead of just one Mario Kart per system they could easily do another a few years later into the cycle. Something to keep some games coming. No need to do once a generation things anymore. But no need for overkill either. Series that have been sitting they could do as well. I would love another Mario RPG, not Paper Mario but a full blown sequel. Star Fox, Metroid, Kid Icarus (though I do not see that one as important), Donkey Kong 64-eque game, etc. Lots they can do and I am hoping they do.

              • Dusk

                Ohhh, I get that. I am just guessing here, but I think they know Mario Kart, SSB Zelda are all system selling games, so they probably keep them for once per console to inflate sales. Just my thoughts though. However Zelda is sometimes released more then once on a console. NES (Legend of Zelda, Link), N64 (Ocarina of time, Majoras Mask), Wii (Twilight Princess, Skyward Sword), Wii U (Wind Waker HD :P , New Zelda game).

  • Dusk

    See, this article pisses me off because technically speaking the PS4 wouldn’t be able to run this demo as it was run on a good computer I’m sure, that is equipped with a GTX 680 which is near top of the line on the market right now, and is rather superior to the one that is offered in the PS4. Stupid biased crap.